Good Sam Club highlights concerns over quality issues
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Good Sam Club highlights concerns over quality issues

(Ventura, Calif.) - The Good Sam Club’s RV Owners’ Advisory Council (RVOAC) was appointed earlier this year for the purpose of identifying RV-related issues of major concern to the membership of the Good Sam Club, an RV owners club of more than a million members. RVOAC is also charged with analyzing those issues and making recommendations to the Good Sam Club management on matters of policy and legislative priorities.

RVOAC has already completed a detailed member survey to determine what issues Good Sam Club members deemed most important to them. The survey presented nine specific questions on issues thought to be of interest to RVers. It included an opportunity for “write-in comments” to catch other issues of major concern not addressed in the specific questions used in the survey.

The tabulated results of the survey showed the following results listing members’ concerns, starting with the highest ranked issues first.

1. Quality of RV manufacturing 98%
2. Availability of competent RV service 93%
3. Existence of adequate Lemon Law protection 87%
4. High fuel costs 86%
5. Protection from local parking ordinances 79%
6. Availability of suitable commercial RV parks 65%
7. Federal access user fees (80% retained by federal facility) 63%
8. Decreased Availability/high cost of RV storage yards 52%
9. Uniform state special RV drivers licensing 33%

Unlike the tabulated questions in which fuel costs came in as the fourth “most important” issue, comments about high fuel costs clearly ranked first in the “write in” portion of the survey. Complaints about high costs of everything (including fuel cost), from campground fees to RV repair costs clearly attracted the greatest number of comments.

RVers are increasingly concerned about local restrictions about where they can park their RVs. There are a number of issues relating to “big rigs”, including campgrounds that do not adequately provide for them, fuel stations that don’t have adequate room to maneuver (or have steep curbs), and a general desire for RV-friendly highway signage. Interest was also expressed in “no frills” campground options, and in having federal state and local parks provide an adequate percentage of non-reservable sites.

“Most notably, the rather startling result is the 1-2-3 place finish of RV quality, RV service, and Lemon Laws,” said Tom Gonser, chairman of RVOAC. “As the Council said in its report, it's as if RVers were saying ‘build it right’ and if you don't, get it fixed the first time. And if you fail on the first two I want Lemon Law protection.”

According to Gonser, "RVers would not be at all surprised at the high rankings of these three items. The real surprise is that RV owners now have a forum through the Good Sam Club to express their concerns, and potentially have them represented in meaningful discussions with industry leaders. RVOAC members intend to use the survey as a means to bring constructive focus on the issues pertaining to RV quality and service.”

Neither the Council nor the Good Sam Club can have any major influence on pricing. However, other issues, including concerns about RV quality, RV service, and even the availability of suitable Lemon Law protection have the Council’s attention as matters of priority, and the Council is studying possible courses of action to deal with these key issues.

The issues pertaining to Lemon Laws are to some extent an emotional reaction to the frustration so many RVers have to the quality and service issues. There are substantive issues here as well, as the state laws are a very confusing patchwork that offers some protection in some states, but virtually none in others. Moreover there is confusion about which state laws govern which transactions. The real need here is for reasonable protection that is consistent among states. “What constitutes ‘reasonable’ will require balancing the interests of the industry and RV owners to come up with a fair and balanced solution,” said Gonser.

All Good Sam members, the Council’s four members were appointed late last year. Chairman Tom Gonser founded the popular website, www.rversonline.org after retiring as a highly regarded attorney and having served as Executive Director of the American Bar Association. Jan McNeil is a full time RVer who retired from her career as a realtor and now works out of her RV with her husband, Chris, a physician. Leo Everitt has been RVing since 1972, and was an executive with such major manufacturers as Cummins and RV maker FMC. Bill Estes retired in 2006 after 38 years with Trailer Life and MotorHome magazines, and is considered to be one of the most trusted and influential voices in the RV world.

About Good Sam Club
The Good Sam Club, www.goodsamclub.com, is the world’s largest RV owners organization with one million member families. Founded in 1966, the Club offers its members a wide variety of services, including RV Insurance, Extended Warranty on RVs (the Continued Service Plan), Emergency Road Service, RV Financing, Good Sam Credit Card and Life & Health Insurance, as well as member discounts at parks, campgrounds, and RV events. Good Sam Club members also receive a subscription to Highways, the Club’s popular RV travel magazine. Additionally, the Club represents more than 2,000 local RV chapters designed to bring RVers together from similar geographic regions for group camping excursions. Extremely committed to its RV members as well as to the environment, the Club is a founder of the annual National Cleanup Day program and an advocate of public land access, Adopt-A-Highway programs and Adopt-A-Park programs, to name a few. The Good Sam Club is headquartered in Ventura, California, and is a subsidiary of Affinity Group Inc.

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RV Tumbleweed :   We bought a new Keystone Everest 5th wheel, model 293 i, in Dec., 2002, as we were looking for a mid-range unit & better construction. We are full-timers, and have about 80,000 miles on our 5'vr. Two structural issues - when new we had to take it to the factory to resolve a roof problem because the plywood had not been screwed down properly. After a trip to Mexico we lost a leaf spring on one side and found the shackles holding the unit to the frame were made cheaply, wearing through and needed replacement. A dealer told us it was a common Everest problem and they had come out with a replacement kit. Otherwise outside of the usual issues with shades, Dometic refrig.recall, poor drawer slides, it has served us well. Enjoy.

formerly furious curious traveller :   saw a large rv on the side of the road after a 1hr traffic jam by the time we got to sse it it was towing a saturn which had caught fire being towed it was just a shell of a car no more glass, tires or anything it was 8/31/08 near doylestown exit of PA turnpike ANYBODY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED?

Lybs :   We have found stress cracks in the body of our 2006 Fleetwood Southwind. WE were able to get one fixed because it was obvious that it was caused by overtightening screws holding the hot water heater in place. We have taken pictures of the ones in the back of the unit where the ladder is attached but Fleetwood is saying that it is not structural. That seems to be a pretty common statement. Are there others with similiar problems?

Chris and Mo :   We've had 3 new RVs one great, one OK and one more problems than we should have had. I don't think it's entirely a problem with the manufacturer I think it's just as much or more a problem with the dealer. We had 2 Fleetwoods, one great, one big problems. When I spoke to other customers of the 2 dealers they had similar experiences. Dealers not manufacturers are the problem. The other was a National. It was OK just a few problems my friend with the same RV from a different dealer had a different experience. The dealer network is the manufacturers best friend and I think this is what everyone should check out before buying an RV.

joelsr :   I have a 2007 Monaco CaymanXL, and generally am pleased with it overall. It's the lack of Q/C and the dealers lack of attention that bugs me. My sound system is not up to performance, leveling jacks had to be calibrated by me (lifted the pass. rear 4" off pavement); fuel sensor/system doesn't work (3rd sensor). When test driven the speed indicator read 85 while going 30, front end was out of alignment. I can go on and on. When Toyota gets into the RV business, we might see some consistent quality control from the factory.

Freezing in Canada :   New owners of a Holiday Rambler Ambassador 07. One month in and 30 days of electrical problems. We have lost a/c, furnace, hot water, washer/dryer, shore power, inverter, transfer switch, ems panel, duo therm panel, and counting... No response from email to Holiday Rambler yet. We would like the name of a manager at HR or just to know that anybody really cares.

Bob K :   We own a 2006 Fleetwood Excursion and love it. Have lived in it for a year and a half, criss crossed the country twice and the only complaint I have is the cost of diesel fuel. The Freightliner chassis and CAT engine perform great. The key to a trouble free rig is ensuring all preventive maintenance is done as called for in your manuals. And always remember the best warranty in a well stock tool box.

jesse :   has anyone owned an everest by keystone . if so what kind of promblems? due to that we are going to buy a fifth wheel please let us know.

Seattle Bill :   I find the same problems here in Washington. I have found this problem with a lot of the larger chain campgrounds. I won't give their name but I will supply the blanks for it. _ _ _

BJ :   We bought a new Winnebago in 1990 for our retirement years. Now we are being denied camping privleges in private campgrounds in both Phoenix Arizona and Ventura California. It is a 27 ft class A and we have taken good care of it so it is not a run down shack. What is the basis for this restriction? The parks are blaming insurace companies, various ordinances and other phony made up reasons. What is behind this?

Morris :   The fault lies both with the manufacturer and the dealer. I never buy motor vehicles new! Let someone else spend a year getting the bugs fixed. I have had nothing but good results from the Winnebago dealer that I use - LaMesa RV in Tucson, AZ. At delivery of a used class A, just about everything that can be done to make the coach acceptable has been done in advance. The small list of warranty work was always fixed promptly and professionally - replace defective parts rather than to patch them up, etc. Check the reputation of the seller as well as the manufacturer. Winnebago would not have been in business for three generations if they did not produce fair quality for the price.

Russ :   I am a believer in Tiffin Motor Homes. I have had 2 and driven 2 others, owned by someone else, I have been to the factory for minor repairs. My first was an Allegro boought new in 1 2005 at Lazy days in FL. Took it to Red Bay, Al to have some things added. I did not have one complaint on this coach. I traded it on an Allegro Bay (Fred) because it had 4 slides and was a diesel. Bob Tiffin is one of the nicest man you will ever meet. His door is always open. This is gospel