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| perry | For the poster that said farmers use the same diesel as trucks. No. They dont. Trucks that go over the road are required to use ultra low sulfur diesel. Farmers use low grade diesel. High sulfur content. Know what you're talking about. |
| PJ | Thx for those inputting technical info. This helps to really understand the FULL cost to produce the duffel. From that profit is easy to calculate. To they end, can someone tell me the difference in run time to crack gas vs duel. Important because someone mentioned the temp diff to crack the fuels which add cost, but the run time is critical. After we get an estimate of the std cost to process each fuel. We then can all talk about how the additional distribution/storage cost and tax are all add ons. This I think would be a great conversation and education for all of us to then really get at the heart of why prices are at these levels. Once we have facts , al can then make their case and we can do something about this issue affecting us all. Hope to hear from some cost accountants/process engineers. The
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| Quien | Because no one bathers to notice that high priced diesel is reflected in what we buy at the grocery store, the public doesn't get all angry about the cost of diesel going up. We have to eat so just blame the farmer when our grocery's increase, but they use diesel fuel to run every bit of machinery on a large farm. The trucks that haul it to market use the same diesel. What makes fuel expensive, no competition. As the Koch brothers own the majority of the refineries, they find it easy to control public opinion with the prices of fuel. Want to put people out of work and get tem angry at te government, easy. Just increase the price of gas so they can't get to their jobs or buy the same pizzas they did last week. We need a revolution. The occupy crowd has it right. The rest of us need to grow a few balls to agree with them. |
| Trev23 | Why does everyone blame the Government. Yes they apply a tax but - the Government does not refine one gallon of fuel nor does it control the amount of disel the oil companies refine. Nor does the Government CIO trol distribution.
The price if disel has far less to do with Government than it does with greedy oil companies who manipulate supply. Oil companies keep the price or diesel artificially high for one reasons- they can get away with gouging the consumer because they can manipulate the supply. And many of those who blame the Government would be the first to rage against any sort of Government regulation or intervention to stop this price gouging. |
| ruralcarrier4x4 | The problem is and has been that our government and Big Oil producers are one and for those in government that don't actually own any oil wells they have been financed by Big Oil so they won't stand up to there own meal ticket will they ? So it seems to me the only solution, if there ever would be one, would be for us the people to gather together in unity and seize control from this monopoly. Unfortunately too many are too scared to get involved or they are too busy. But when are you going to get a belly full of this ? All our jobs have been sent oversea's all the while prices for everything here goes up and up. And what do we do ? We put tighter restrictions on business' to get rid of polution.All the while China is getting rich and not worrying about the environment one bit-- But think about this-the same air that China, and others, pollutes WE eventually breith in-common people-we all live on the same planet (atleast most of us do). So when is enough going to be enough ? |
| Norm | There are several reasons for the prices of gas and diesel. The first one is supply and demand and because they can. Contrary to some beliefs here diesel isnt as simple to make as it used to be. It used to be made using crude diesel and stove oil mixed approx 5% stove in the summers and 25% stove in the winters. This is because straight diesel has a lower pour point and freeze and will gell in the winter in not mixed with more stove.Our government in its infinite wisdom decided that the diesel should be ultra low sulfur which changed everything.Now with even tighter limits on sulfur it means that the straight run diesel must be further processed in another unit using higher temps and catalysts and higher pressures. That immediately meant that the refiners that had the ability to make this low sulfur diesel were few and far between. So that raised the prices some. Right now there are 2 50,000 barrels per day low sulfur diesel units under construction. One in Washington state and one in Texas. If the government would relax this ridiculous limit on the sulfur to the last one it would lower the prices of diesel at least 50cents a gallon immediately. They could also cut the taxes on diesel a little and help. Another thing that the government cant just seem to figure out is outages. If a refinery had a problem or if crude goes up the cost we pay at the pump goes up immediately. When the problem is over or if crude prices goes down it takes forever for that to reflect the price at the pump. Also oil companies are really aware of the gas and diesel levels in each part of the country. It there is a surplus in one area they will ship gas or diesel to another area even at a loss to keep the prices up.. Big oil was also allowed to buy each other up so now there is no competition.. |
| Tmcb | Doubley is an idiot. distillation of gas and diesel are made in the same pressure vessel! Gas is condensed higher under solvents. Diesel is condensed lower somewhat above fuel oil. Respectively, each is made from the same crude. The cost is determined by supply and demand, even though diesel is a far inferior fuel. |
| Doubley | Diesel cost more because it takes more heat to distill or refine crude oil to diesel. Just look up the refining process and you can see that diesel is distilled at a MUCH higher temp than gasoline incurring more cost. Gasoline evaporates at about 100F and diesel is "i'm gong off of memory here so i'm sure i'm off" 800F or 700F can't remember but much higher. It's not a conspiracy folks:-) |
| scotlands son | It seems to me the people are doing nothing about this gouging. we need a way to get one voice of the people to break the monopoly the government and the oil companies have on this comodity. Oil prices are down yet prices are up. Gasoline can be produced for under 40 cents a gallon.Diesel for less than 32 cents a gallon (imperial Gallon). The # of hands oil goes through is what kills us , that and taxes. Oil passes about herty people before you see it at the pump and each has to see a profit. Why is it not the oil company buying refining and selling in their fuel stations? The governments do nothing because they are loving the higher taxes and we do not lay any blame on them. They have us running in circles while they keep lying. There is more oil in the US, Canada and East Africa than we will ever use. We need to stop funding and shipping oil to china. Canada has just sold one of their largest oil companies to China, same as they done with their largest coal fields and shipped all the coal from Ridley Island coal terminal to China. Time to stop this and look after ouselves. If Gas and Diesel were $2 a gallon everyone would still make a handsome profit. |
| scotlands son | It seems to me the people are doing nothing about this gouging. we need a way to get one voice of the people to break the monopoly the government and the oil companies have on this comodity. Oil prices are down yet prices are up. Gasoline can be produced for under 40 cents a gallon.Diesel for less than 32 cents a gallon (imperial Gallon). The # of hands oil goes through is what kills us , that and taxes. Oil passes about herty people before you see it at the pump and each has to see a profit. Why is it not the oil company buying refining and selling in their fuel stations? The governments do nothing because they are loving the higher taxes and we do not lay any blame on them. They have us running in circles while they keep lying. There is more oil in the US, Canada and East Africa than we will ever use. We need to stop funding and shipping oil to china. Canada has just sold one of their largest oil companies to China, same as they done with their largest coal fields and shipped all the coal from Ridley Island coal terminal to China. Time to stop this and look after ouselves. If Gas and Diesel were $2 a gallon everyone would still make a handsome profit. |
| jhb | well I THINK it is left upto us to get off of our tail and get these lifers out of the senate and the congress and show them when election time comes that we are fed up with thim and promices and all this idel talk .And especialy all this coruppion that they have got going on up there. those people up there in D.C. could corupt the pope in 1week and we the people need to be at the polls to vote a show all of them REPUBLICAN & DEMOCRATS THAT WE ARE TIRED of them just thinking about thereselfs. |
| Bob | The reason that disel fuel is so high the government spends to much money all the new rules that doesn't mean a thing all the ear marks from the congress men the lady's to they don't really care about the people |
| John | The reason that diesel gas taxes are higher is simple. Clear diesel (as opposed to "red" diesel used for non-transportation uses) goes into trucks, big rigs, and RVs, vehicles that are more likely to spend time on highways and interstates. These vehicles are also responsible for causing the most damage to the roads due to their size. Therefore, the diesel tax is higher to compensate state and federal road funds which go toward repairing the roads for everyone.
It is not a government/corporate conspiracy, as some people on here assume it to be (and with no proof or logic to back it up). |
| Hawkeye249 | I used to feel strongly that some with evil motives were behind diesel costing more than gas.
That's because I visited Germany, where this a higher proportion of diesel powered vehicles than gas. Despite the differential, in 2011 diesel was cheaper than gas there, although both cost more than in the US.
As an aside, I rented a Ford Galaxy, which is a minivan. Powered by a 2.0 liter VW turbodiesel it got a calculated 35 mpg overall for the trip. Driving included narrow streets in town where I didn't get past 3rd gear (6 speed manual) and autobahn driving where I mostly went about 70 mph but did hit 100 as Audi's and Mercedes' blew past me like I was a spectator.
I.E., on the mostly flat roads in the U.S. at a steady 55-65, I wouldn't be surprised if it got 40 mpg with two adults and luggage.
Here are the reasons I believe diesel costs more in the U.S.:
1. Demand. It's not just the vehicles. #2 Fuel oil to heat homes is the same stuff that makes those trucks go.
2. Crude oil cannot just be turned into whatever is needed. The standard breakdown of fuels derived from a barrel of crude are:
19.6 gallons of gasoline
10.0 gallons of diesel
4.1 gallons of jet fuel
Other various petroleum products.
Refineries can vary the breakdown, but ONLY by a little. Not enough to sway prices significantly.
3. Federal fuel tax is about 7 cents per gallon higher for diesel. Didn't check states, but they may also tax diesel more. Makes some sense because the tax supports road maintenance and heavy trucks wear roads more than lighter vehicles.
That's it - just three reasons.
Not applicable:
China. They're gobbling up all the oil they can, but that just drives up the cost per barrel, not individual derivatives.
It cannot cost more to refine crude into diesel than gas. And the lower sulphur content is just blah, blah, blah. A one-time cost to upgrade equipment. Germany requires lower parts per million than the US. (and sells it for less than gas)
So, a barrel's worth will fill most gasoline powered cars.
A barrel's worth will get a diesel started, but most big rigs take about 200 gallons to fill - or 20 barrels.
I miss that Ford Galaxy, but I don't see the price of diesel getting closer to gasoline for the forseeable future in the U.S.
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| PHC | I agree with an earlier post, half of the diesel manufactured in this country is being shipped overseas to "China". This ain't right. |
| PHC | Have read all of your comments. Some peoples comments and ideas are very real.
Having seen our oil prices rise since 1960 would amaze most of you. As I grew up in the late 60's, gas was 12 cents a gallon and diesel 7 cents. During the 60's, and even before, our government had put controls, sanctions if you will, on the oil companies limiting how much the American public could be charged for fuel. However, in the late 60's, the government lifted those controls and let the oil companies start charging the consumer higher prices. Very soon up to 20, 30 cents a gallon and higher. Our diesel prices still remained for a long time at half the price of gas.
In the meantime, our government came to the realization that trucks consumed many more gallons than cars did. More gallons equal more tax revenues.
From what I personally know, our government has suppressed the technology on more efficient diesel engines, from your cars to semi trucks. If the technology had not been suppressed, our cars would be getting between 50-80 mpg. And our semi trucks 25-30 mpg. What this would amount to, for our government, would be a reduction of fuel tax revenues some where along the lines of 60-70% for trucks and around 50-60% for cars At the present time, there is a static electric engine for semi's that uses "no" diesel fuel. Another is natural gas engine being put produced and put into use in the good old USA as I speak. Once again, this will equal up to "no" diesel fuel. And, of course, no fuel tax revenues for our government. Does this possibly mean our government will have to live within theirs means? LOL! You better believe "NOT".
There is a lot our government can do, but won't do, because they might actually help you and me out.
As a response to an earlier post. diesel still only costs half of what gas costs to make. |
| James | It seems it is always more expensive to buy your diesel from a big truckstop than a small station, this never used to be true. |
| zach | Diesel is one of the least refined fuel which is a by-product of gas yet it cost more than gas at the pump but you never here about price petitions about diesel even though everything you are looking at right now has been on a diesel motor somewhere at some point in its life lets get our senators and congressman to do something about it and even your gas will go down because it travels on a diesel truck so lets start somewhere and get this country great again! |
| kdenny | This is just another way to raise taxes on the American people, if the price stays high then the prices of everything else goes up and so more money for taxes to the government that is draining us dry. |
| Cattleman | When the price of diesel fuel goes up, the cost is passed along to the stores. This makes the store prices go up. This makkes the fools think we are in an economic recovery because the stores report higher sales dollars. This isnot an indicater of increased sales. It is an indicater of increased prices. Yet, no one ever mantions this. |
| Bill | I believe a combination of effecs. the companies now find the diesel users have to pay whatever they charge and no way out
plus the bidding process on wall street makes the price go up so bidders can make more money. |
| Serf | Why is the Federal tax on Diesel higher? |
| kedtec | Diesel fuel takes about 1/3 the energy to refine than does gasoline. The only place that diesel fuel costs more than gasoline is in the USA. But if diesel fuel costs more than we can raise our prices on all consumer goods and produce since everything gets delivered by diesel powered truck. Moreover, the farmers need diesel to run their tractor. |
| BUSTER | SATAN is the ruler of this world 2corth. 4:4 He has people as a puppet in the political,commeriacl world and religious system of this world that why it is corrupt . LOOK AT ALL THREE. RICH OIL PEOPLE WILL FIND IT DIFFICUT TO GET INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD (MOST GREEDY RICH PEOPLE) GREED IS SEEN IN THIS WORLD. IT SHOWS IT'S god who most people follow. |
| Weez-L | Why in the world would we let the new pipeline be installed and run by the greedy oil companies? We all waited for the Alaskan pipeline years ago thinking our gas & diesel prices would go down. But, what happened is the oil companies got greedy again and now sell all of it to China. You know they will do the same with the new pipeline. In the 1930's the government formed TVA, for electric generation and we still have cheaper electricity then the private sector companies. Maybe our government should take over the new pipeline and demand that all of the oil will stay here in this country only. If they did we could possibly have $.50 per gallon gas & diesel. This would not only put people to work, but really stimulate the economy. Down with all the oil companies and down with our worthless congress. |
| two wheele | we need to have a nation wide strike till this asshole country frees up it own fuel instead of the oil people making big dollars |
| Unhappy Diesel driver | Part of the problem could be: The gov gave you a rebate for buying more fuel efficient vehicles. Now they are getting their rebates back by taxing the fuel you have to use in your more efficient vehicle.
We in america are our own worst enemies. We have to have big powerful engines in our big cars and trucks. My Americanized VW has a 2.0L diesel engine, whereas in Europe the same car would have a 1.4L engine, hence greater fuel savings. But after all is said and done, it really does'nt matter what the amount of fuel is used, you will still pay the same. If you use less, the price will increase, because the fuel companies and the gov. have their budgets and if you use less, it cuts into their budgets. You cannot win over big business and Government. PARK YOUR BIG GAS AND DIESEL BURNERS AND WATCH THE PRICES COME DOWN!!! It may be a little painful, but we as Americans have had to fight for our freedom and our liberties in the past, so why do we let the oil companies and our ruling fathers dictate to us high prices for energy??? |
| No Illusions | Simple fact is that the Electric Co. , Water and other utilities prices are regulated because they are monopolies with no competitors. Big oil is a monopoly without any over site so they can charge whatever they want to. The Government is in bed with them and they are all getting rich off the backs of working class Americans. |
| Dale in Virginia | I'm tired of hearing "global" when questioning fuel prices here in the US. I could care less what anyone anywhere else in the world is paying for fuel/gas. I'm tired of the left wing environmental idiots putting a stop to building more refineries. There is no reason why we can be totally self-reliant on our own oil instead of bowing to OPEC. People spent extra money to purchase diesel engine cars and trucks to take advantage of lower diesel prices and better fuel mileage. All food prices have risen because of the extra cost in delivering the goods because of the high fuel costs. They are very simply ensuring fuel prices remain high in an attempt to make the high cost of alternative fuels more reasonable. They are the same people that for years have told us to purchase more fuel efficient automobiles to “save the environment”. The current administration is so enslaved to these whackos that he won’t approve the Keystone Pipeline project when the country is hurting for jobs. We need to use our resources and become completely energy self sufficient. |
| Barbqdude | It used to be that diesel was 40 cents a gallon higher, then 50, then 60, and now in Phoenix it has jumped to 70 and 80 cents a gallon higher. Something needs to be done, this is called GOUGING! |
| d cabral | ok Mr OBAMA the time has come to get off your ass and do something about these diesel costs. the fuel cost a fraction of that of gas to refine, the american people need a break the high cost of diesel has driven up the price of everything from the cost of food to live, to the cost of fuel to get to work soon there there will be no middle class for you to suck dry |
| smokie | What I want to know is why diesel is more than a dollar a gallon than gas. People, it dos not matter if you drive a gas vehicle or not. We are all paying for it through are commodities. Wake up!! Every body should be outraged. |
| Salmon | The reason the bigger trucking Co. don't care about fuel prices is that they now just add a surcharge and charge the extra cost of fuel to the coustomer. That why they don't protest like they did 30 years ago, blocking freeways and pumping fuel on the ground at Truck Stops, there are only small group of independent trucker who are not able to add surcharge and do care about fuel costs.
The reasion our prosest are not herd is there not enough of US protesting without the trucking Co. prostesting too. |
| devin | there area a dozen reasons why diesel is more expensive. I hate it but I have no choice. the real question should be. WHAT ARE WE AS THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY WILLING TO DO ABOUT IT? |
| PAPAKRAKA | I live in Tulsa,formerly known as "OUL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD".My Grandfather,Father,Uncle,and many friends retired from Texaco,Sinclair,etc.Deisel costs 60% less than gas to manufacture.Yhe only reason the price is higher is GOUGING!!My dad was called to Washington in the 70's to testify about the fake gas shortage back then.Remember 10 years ago when truckers blocked D.C.?Price went down PRETTY QUICK!THEY SHOULD DO IT AGAIN!By the way,I drive an 81 chevy deisel van. |
| chainsaw | BULLSHT, BULLSHT, BULLSHT, BULLSHT, BULLSHT, BULLSHT.....i AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE BULLSHT. WHAT DOES ONE HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE A-HOLES ATTENTION????
i AM NOT ONE TO ACT ON IT NOR WILL I DO ANYTHING STOOOOOOOOPID HOWEVER, WHY IS IT WHEN WE SEE SOMEONE SHOOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OR BLOW SOMETHING UP WE SAY "OH HE WAS SUCH A QUIET GUY, KEPT TO HIMSELF DIDN'T EVER BOTHER ANYONE"!!! WELL GUESS WHAT WAKE UP YOU POLITICAL IDIOTS!!! PEOPLE ARE GOIN NUTS CAUSE YOU A-HOLE HAVE YOUR HEADS UP YOUR ASSES SO FAR YOU NEED A WINDSHIELD FROM A 76 PACER TO SEE OUT OF YOUR ABDOMIN!!! I bought a diesel pick up cause fuel was cheaper AND I get 17-19 MPG. NOW I'M SCREWED!!!! |
| Danstar | They say demand is up, but excuse the hell out of me. This country lost close to if not over 2 million class 8 trucks during this recession, and then another nearly 300,000 drivers that did not comply with the new FMCSA 2010 regs and had more then 300 points on their licenses. I don't know about your math, but this is 345 million gallons of diesel not being bought every few days (on the big truck scale of use) that is over 35 BILLION gallons of diesel not being purchased and though it would not be fair to calculate at actual pump prices as most companies get up to .15/gal discount on fuel programs they have, your still talking over an estimated $130 BILLION dollars lost in annual diesel fuel consumption and those are very rought #'s based on discounts down to $3.65/gal which not everyone would receive if they have a small fleet vs a larger fleet, but however you figure it, that has to put a hurting on some oil conglomerate bastards pocket book!!! Sad part is, Exxon still claims to have made over $400 B in profits last quarter... |
| philip martin | we are a mechanized society. this is causing the economy to suffer.
lets call it what it is unbridled greed.goverment is incompetent. |
| Tim | When I bought my 2001 F-250 4x4 7.3 diesel new the price per gallon was $1.41. In ten years I can barely afford to drive it since the price and almost tripled! Somebody is feeding us a line of garbage and making a heck of a lot $. |
| rabbit | rt if you think pick get 12 mpg your i have a 7.3 f 250 crue cab 18.5 mpg in city and 24.8 on hwy the fuel cost is so they can rob people that heat homes with fuel oil and the people who make a living depending on this fuel
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| sonny | it all boils down to the all mighty dollar....the rich stay rich and the less than rich people will never get ahead....the average working man pays more in taxes than the rich ...who find loop holes and politicans who are on the rich band wagon....to keep ya down |
| FRED WILLIAMS | DIESEL FUEL PRICE IS SO HIGH BECAUSE BIG TRUCK FILL UP IS HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS,THEY NEED THE FUEL AND WE NEED TRUCKS TO HAUL STUFF THAT WE NEED. |
| 7.3 | i have worked in refinery's in Il., Ky.and In. They all refine crude the same way. Every time you make a gal.of gas there is almost 1.50gals of deisel made. the refining process hasn't changed. |
| kathy | As long as this country keeps the price up, they are getting a tax that is hidden. The higher the prices of products go the more the states and feds get in taxes. This is not right, bring the price DOWN!!!! |
| Datapanic | Diesel was cheaper than gas until Katrina hit and supposedly wiped out the main diesel processing plants for most of the US. Of course that was 6 years ago. |
| RT | What a bunch of clowns. The price of fuel in the U.S. is very low. You pay more for soda than you do for fuel. The price of fuel has been too low in the U.S., allowing you clowns to drive horribly inefficient vehicles and waste crude oil as fat as possible. You complain about the price of fuel but YOU ARE TO BLAME! We need gas gussler taxes now. If these clowns can afford to commute in a pickup truck getting 12 mpg than surely they can afford idiot tax as well. |
| Mad at Greedy Oil companies | I agree, it costs a lot less to produce diesel than gasoline. As an owner of a Diesel truck I am appalled at our goverment allowing the oil companies to gouge us this way. Record sales(and profits) every quarter by the oil companies should be a wakeup call. We the consumers are struggling to make ends meet and the greedy oil companies are riding high on our backs.
When the truckers boycott these prices and the shelves are empty in our stores someone at the oil company may not get their record profits see if we really give a da*%m.
WAKE UP MR PRESIDENT Americans need help not more profits for the oil companies. |
| Tom | I think this is all Bull$$it. A by product of Gas and we pay more! Maybe your new President might do something, i doubt it. We need a plan we need to study it, he says! That man is a joke along with most in DC who don't have a freaking clue!!! Why the working man/woman maxs out their credit cards just to drive to work. It's bad when a government empolyee who makes about $40k a year, makes Ketchup packet soup just to feed her 2 kids becuase she has to fill up her car and make a mortage payment that she she have never been approved for in the first place. Like everyone else she wanted the American Dream like everyone else. she suffers, sometimes goes hungry becuase she doesn't want to lose her home. This will only worsen the economy. |
| Johnny | Ever wonder were the Mafia went? They moved up into politics and business and they choose to exploit the products that are the hinge points of our society. Diesel moves everything in your life you depend on and they "the mob" thinks you need to pay more for that service |
| Guy Jones | To the idiots that keep talking about using the US "Strategic Petroleum Reserve", or US SPR:
1. The capacity of the SPR is 724 million barrels, or about 30 days of US Consumption. Not nearly enough to effect any meaningful long-term price reduction.
2. It's there for an emergency. We are not currently experiencing an emergency right now. |
| GOD | Everybody's think's and thought's, but you all need to know that money is the root of all evil, tax this and tax that, work your butt off just to pay more tax. So really were does most of our money go to the government the true root of all evil. |
| Barko | I think we should start thinking about america. Then working on helping other countries. If we don't fix america with the unforgiving politicans. What's left for our kids to pay $6.00 per gallon for gas. We need to fight the goverment, because to produce 80% or of crude oil then any other countries in the world. Let's fight for america to come back. Stop sending our oil to Japan and china, So we don't have make a discission whether we eat or put gas in our car or truck. I think we should start are own We love America website. Thanks, Barko |
| GregK | There is no reason, accept they can get away with charging what they want. It cost a lot less to make a gallon of Diesel than it does a gallon of Gas. |
| h2000 | whats the point in having an oil reserve if we dont use it when there is a problem? |
| ken | People like RVs, they'll keep on using them and buying them. Maybe they just will not travel so much, stay in one place longer. |
| Greg U | What's the point of having a reserve if we don't use it in an emergency - and this IS an emergency! |
| Jeff P | I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better. I hope I'm wrong but I think the oil company CFO is wrong. |
| Tony S | The real reason is the FUEL SURCHARGE on motor, rail freight and packages. This eliminated the political back lash from the trucking industry ( speak teamsters, remember the strikes?) and decoupled the one volatile variable form the cost of doing business. Always paid by the customer at an average price per Gallon of Diesel PLUS 50 US cents!! Software from UPS can be adjusted daily if need to be so there you go ... who cares how much diesel they use or waist idling for hours ... the suckers pay and the general public are blatantly told that higher diesel price increased the price of goods services etc! OIL barons still rule this country ! No I am not a treehugger, but hate to be screwed by politicians, who have reduced their positions to money laundering operations for their biggest campaign contributors. |
| Doghouse | I have already cancelled my long trip this summer because of the fuel prices going up. I bet the RV sales come to a stop like a couple of years ago when they were over $4.00/gal. |
| server | We are looking to a world source to fix these issues and it is not going to happen. All of our leaders and controllers cannot make the changes and it is not because they can't? They just do not know how to do it. The majority of the officials' will never admit that they are running for gain and not for their integrity. The bible says that food is going to be more expensive and it looks that we are heading that way. Officials in the government will only tell you what is good for your ears. Read the chapter Job in the Bible and then do some research about Job. Only the Lord will change you and He will call you. |
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