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blueknight
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I worked with a group of Boulder City Nevada registered voters to collect 1,974 signatures for one City Council person and 1,978 for the second Council person to have a "RECALL" election, I want to remove them from office for trying to take my right given to me and others under Boulder City Nevada ordinance 10-6.3 to park any legally registered and insured vehicle on the public street directly in front of my residence.
Michael
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It should not matter where you live, if you can park a car there you should be able to park your rv, they have a lic. and you do pay taxes on them.
Blueknight
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Collecting petition signatures impressed the Mayor and 2 other City Council members to vote against 2 activist new council members and blocked any new law that would prohibit the parking on public streets in Boulder City Nevada.
Safety issues wasn't proven, loss of property values wasn't proven, now a recall of these 2 City Council members have begun on March 5th.
Voting with your signatures is lethal to elected officals, get involved, fight for your rights.
Stan
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Hello, I owned a boat for 10 years, I store my boat in a boat storage to be a good neighbor. My new neighbor got an 30' R.V. and stores it in the driveway. It is a public nuisance and is causing depreciation of property value. What do i do?
Donald Levitt
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Hello out there. I live in Fresno. I just bought an RV and I love it. Wished I had started this stuff earlier. I received 3 Municipal citations costing a total of $1,500.00 from the city of Fresno. I parked the RV in my driveway as I was constructing a place on the side of my house for my RV. The city refused to wait while I completed it. TOO BAD, they said and left me with a bill. Now I want to fight it. Does anyone know about these things? What do your municipalities have say about this?
blueknight
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A group of RV owners in Boulder City Nevada have reserved a meeting room for Sat Dec ,8, 2007 at 1PM to discuss options to protect the right to park vehicles on public streets.Door to door exchanged views have elevated this issue to a residents organized level that is intended to counter any Boulder City Council action to ban the parking of any trailer in front of a homeowners personal residence.
Blueknight
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Boulder City Nevada, the Home of Hoover Dam. On November 13, 2007 the Boulder City council voted 4-0 to conduct at least 2 public forums to hear public comments with regard to park RV's, boat trailers and other large trailers on public streets.
Blueknight
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On November 13, 2007 in Boulder City Nevada,the City Council will meet and have a agenda item to discuss and possible vote to ban Rv's, boat trailers, and other types of trailers.
Boulder City Nevada is about 4 miles to Lake Mead the Home of Hoover Dam where boating and RVing is widely used.
Many RV and boat owners are retired and use their vehicles often. Under Boulder City, Nevada "CURRENT" law, one can park in front of their residence without regulation.
2 new activist lawyers were elected to the council this year that is made up with 5 votes, 4 from council members and 1 from the Mayor, and the few in number voters, that have a discriminatory nature now have powerful voice.
One area in question where several RV vehicles are parked since 1994 are homes built in the 1980's, about 1500 square feet, in 1994 sold for about $150,000, today over $400,000, no reported accidents caused by parked RV's.Some houses that were built when Hoover Dam was being constructed are without garages or aren't large enough to park Rv's off the public streets. People until today have the right to buy a house, park in front of their home a legally registered and insured vehicle of their choice.
I'm hoping that public safety is the issue and not someones "discriminatory" point of view.
Mike Melland
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I think you must live in an exclusive neighborhood? Parking an RV in your driveway should depend on the area you live in.
Scott
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Richard, I am writing a comprehensive article on the RV issue in Glendora for a newspaper: Glendora Life. I also live in Glendora and would like to interview you with your concerns. Please e-mail me and I will provide you with a telephone number, let me know when the best time for me to await your telephone call.
Thank you...Scott
Bruce
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So, it is ok for you to park your RV (even though it is smaller) in your driveway, but it is not ok for someone else to park their RV in their yard, most likely not the driveway, but a spot that is not as visible. I park my 32 ft RV behind my garage so it is not even visble from the street.
GollyWobbler
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An RV is an extreme and I can understand some concern but a small utility trailer is not an RV.
Whwn in other countries I saw the little trailer was how they haul stuff and the car was to haul people. There were few pick ups.
People should consider parking when buying an elephant but they GO TOO FAR!
There maybe a size limit but to pool a small recreation vehicle or row boat with an RV?
I think you should be allowed up to a week twice a year to load it. I feel sorry for cul-de-sacs but frankly your in an abnormal situation.
I don't own an RV and wouldn't.
I wish we could take out the street and make fat people walk off a bit but if I had an RV I'd feel different.
Darn it, if I have no rights to my home then why buy here? Confound you people who have made us so crowded anyhow
Just let me sell my house to someone who wants to be ruled over by the brain dead sleeping majority.
I am sure you can find something in common with a crack head.
Just pay me for my easement so I can relocate to an American country where sissy people who complain a lot are not allowed to.
Other states are laughing at us.
GollyWobbler
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Gee, I am thinking this is not about just the big RV but all little trailers and any vehicle like 1082-C-S states.
They are not banning RVs they are taking our right to use our land as we see fit.
There is a bigger issue than they want to admit.
Unfortunately I don't see Simmonsen or Moore as heros.
They could agree behind the scenes as they so often do. Three votes is all that's needed for the ballot now they have people on both sides and know your game plan.
It's all so contrived like their "Quality of Life" meetings.
There is no one doing this but the City council and business' who make money on it. It's all smoke and mirrors but why?
Find that out and the 'real' battle begins.
How many RV people are 'real?'
Some are, like you, but how many are fake?
Steve
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The Glendora city council has members who have publicly stated that the code regulating RV parking and storage should be more restrictive. They have refused to have a workshop with an ad hoc RV parking committee (to which they appointed two members who publicly stated that all RVs should be banned) wherein reasonable codes might be discussed. Now, in a further effort to chill discussion and opposition to their plans, they fired the chair of the city's historic preservation committee because he was outspoken as chair of the RV committee and fought for a reasonable solution to the issue.
Coleen
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I think Leonard's story about Glendora CA is shocking. The basic idea that an RV is an "accessory building" and setting out regulations in detail is unamerican. What about freedom? Good luck with your website fighting the city.
Leonard
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Our city (Glendora, CA) is considering a very restrictive ordinance that includes requiring a permit to park a RV of ANY type (motor home, trailer, tent trailer, boat, jet ski, ATV, etc.) on your own property. A minimum of three feet from all property lines, paved surface only, six foot screening, not in front yard setback, etc. A recent survey found less than a dozen spots in storage lots in town. This will impact hundreds of RV owners. They want to treat all RV's as accessory buildings and permit only one RV per home. We started a web page to keep people informed. rvrightsglendora.com
Please visit to stay informed about our progress.
Paula's Parking Principles
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We have a big problem on our small cul-de-sac street. There are 9 houses on the street and most people park in their garages and driveways. The one couple at the end of the block has consistently parked their oversized motorhome on the street, in front of their home, which is the circle of the cul-de-sac. They have gone as far as to obtain a blue zone (disabled parking) in said area, with DP plates on this vehicle. It continually violates the 72 hour rule and is currently parked in such a manner that makes it difficult for me to park in my driveway. It never goes anywhere and the cobwebs that have collected periodically indicate non-use. We can't seem to get any help from the police, traffic management, city council or other neighbors. Very frustrating!
Chris Valenta
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There are a lot of things I don't like to look at, Hummers with their Spinning
wheels, the kids with their droopy pants. But this America! Land of the Free!
Regulate things from a safety position
not a discrimatory opinion base.
It is Discriminatory by nature and
should be stopped!
Who is to decide what is ugly!
Antioch City Council:
Two voted to leave RV/Boat people alone
Two voted against
The mayor Chickened out and voted against and put it up for a Vote by the
people. Sounds good except the Vote
will cost in excess of $83,000.Insane!
People have been parking their boats
and RV's for Decades and no property
values have dropped.
What car or truck will be next?
Hummers? BMW's? When all those pretty
police start having their cars removed
then they will ask: Why can't I park
my property on my property?
Jimmy Boy
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There are several reasons why RV owners don't use storage yards as solution to these complaints: 1. Not enough spaces available. Often you have to be placed on a waiting list for up to two years. 2. Inconvenient hours. You come in late from a trip and the place is closed (as early as 6 to 7 PM), leaving you to park elsewhere. 3. Expensive. In high price areas like California, outside storage runs $100-$200 per month. Inside storage can be $300 and up. Some storage places require you to store inside if your rig is over a certain footage. 4. Spaces not big enough. Some yards only have spaces up to 25 ft. which leaves a lot of Class A owners out in the cold. 5. Poor locations. A lot of yards are in mediocre or bad areas where the land is cheaper. Plus it could be miles away from where you live.
Ken F.
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I agree with Honest John about the city wanting to enforce aesthetics. Will the city also fine those residents who don't cut their grass or paint their porch or even because they didn't use the color of paint that the city finds appealing ? Isn't the reason that a lot of us purchased homes outside of an HOA is because we wanted to be free from HOA restrictions ?
Honest John
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In Torrance, CA they don't want anyone parking overnight on the street, but they have made an exception where residents have to register with the city for $98, then purchase a one day permit @ $15 each time you want to pull up in front of your house to load and unload. A limited number of daily permits are allowed. Thousand Oaks has no restrictions on the street other than the state mandated 72 hour rule, however, if you park it in the driveway or side yard, it can only only sit for 30 days. So my neighbor moves his rig to the street once a monh for 3 days, then back in the yard.
I can see the problem of oversized vehicles on the street, but people arguing about parking in one's own yard have gone too far. Since when should a city start enforcing aesthetics ? They are not an HOA, but are trying to be one. Side yard RV access can only add to the value of a property since it is a welcome selling feature. Do you think a potential buyer realy cares if his neighbor across the street parks a rig off the street in his side yard ? How exactly is that bothering him ? Some people will whine about anything. At a recent city council meeting in Torrance, someone who complained about RVs hurting property values had to be reminded that during 2003 to 2005, real estate in that area appreaciated between 100 to 300 percent (doubled to quadrupled). And they're complaining about damaged propery values ? Give us a break..
Campground Owner
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As RV's age, like abandoned vehicles, they can become an issue. Therefore, some areas have passed and do enforce these laws.
Some alternatives to paying high storage costs is finding a campground or RV Park that allows storage for a reasonable price, or consider parking the RV "Seasonally" there.
You can enjoy the RV more, but pull it out of the campground to travel. And, the rates would be comparative to storage fees, but still usable!
Rollin
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I don't understand the idea that an RV lowers ones property value!! And renting a storage space is getting out of control. These laws just make the cost rise because they know you have to pay it. Where does it stop anyway? So I like RVs but think an old car or pickup is an eye sore. Do we push through a law that says any car over XXX years old has to be out of public sight? Or with fire places that could pump out smoke (if you could use it) do we force people to take them down because it makes it look like our HOA condones pollution? It goes on & on no one see's things the same. One man's passion is another man may not be able to understand. We are no robots who all think the same. So where does it stop?
songwrangler
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I live in the county and bought a place
big enough to store whatever ... wake up folks ... get out of these restrictive cities ... people buy these
homes on lots so small you can touch the neighbors house with a stick ... and then complain ... another thought ... how about these homes they are building where the RV garage is built as part of the home ... my thinking is that an RV should be so close to the house that it can be used as part of the living space ... it is coming ... watch ... db
toyotacamper
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I agree with the city not letting people park these behemeth monster sized vehicles in one's yard. Heck if I paid a million dollars for a piece of property, I sure and the hell would not like a huge gas guzzling box seen in my neighborhood. As for me I own a Toyota camper, with the truck frame, and park it in my driveway like a car, and the price of homes in my neighborhood ranges in the 200's -400's, and not one complaining.
Andrew S.
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I too own an RV. I belive that living in a neighborhood means being reasonable. rules are made to protect everyone. If you were not an RV or boat owner you would feel the same way and would not want to see them parked in front yards and along side houses.They are an eye sore just like race cars and utility trailers.
Ken E.
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Developers should be required to provide RV and boat secure parking within the neighborhood. Some are now doing this and it solves the problem. Cities/towns could require this of developers if they chose to do so. Unfortunatly HOAs are a necessity now days if you want to protect your home investment at all. There are just too many slobs out there who want to park four cars on the front lawn, which is now weeds anyway. The other solution-move out to the country where you can do as you want.
Jack
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I have owned a RV since 1967. The last 5 have been Class A motorhomes. I love motorhomes, but I DO NOT think they should be parked in residential driveways or yards. It seems that anyone with an objective view point would have to agree that they are indeed an eyesore to the rest of the neighborhood and without a doubt can adversely effect property values if allowed to park there on a permanent basis. People mention the price they paid for their motorhome as though that changes anything or should give them special consideration. In my opinion that is bunk. I paid $500,000.00 for my present motor home, but that doesn't give me a right to move such a big (beautiful in my opinion) "walrus" into my neighborhood. People speak of losing our personal rights and government intervention. I certainly share that concern, but I always try to weigh the rights of the majority over the rights of the few or the individual. I just don't think all of my neighbors should have to tolerate a large RV conspicuously parked in our nice neighborhood even though it means I have to pay $150.00 per month to store it 12 miles away and I have to limit the time I can "legally" park it in front of my home for loading and unloading. Sorry, but it sounds like most of these letters are written by very selfishly motivated individuals. I liked the comparison one writer made asking if it would be all right for someone deciding they wanted to keep horses. That is really no different.
Ken M.
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It's just more government control. Can anyone think imminent domain is next? The govenment is telling people what they can do with their own property. You people that disagree....you will be next. It may be what kind of car you drive, what kind of dog you own or, as in some places already, what color your house can be. Wake up people....your rights are slowly being taken away.
Sam Nettles
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Property owners have lost enough rights.This idea was dumb from the start. Just another way for goof balls and idiots to find and promote an issue to get elected on.
Ladysue
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Here's goes MORE right's taken away from us as US citizen's! What's next? You own your land,you pay taxes you should be able to park your RV on your land.
Rose P
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I think it's great that both the RVers formed themselves into a force to resist the ordinance, and it's good that the city council are responding to them - at least enough to put it to a vote.
Logan
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Just another reason I do not choose to live in a larger area...too many silly rules from equally silly people. We have our RV parked at the end of our drive behind the house and beside the detached garage. It is easily accessible, and out of everyone else's way. I would say the nuisance in the listed article would be the politicians.
Josephine Maurie
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I don't know why but every area seems to be doing the same. We live in Austin TX and not only can't we park our 5er at our home but we can't find anywhere to park within 15 miles at any price.
Sam
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RV is for your personal enjoyment, keep it on your home. Street parking always block other driver's view. It is a hazard.
Evelyn
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If you can't afford to park these Road Viruses then you can't afford to own one. Anyone who buys a horse automatically picks up the cost of board and feed. They don't expect to tether it on their (or their neighbors lawn)and the waste products of an animal are biodegradable.
Tony
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“ RV parking is becoming a public nuisance ” where are you coming from, the back hills of nowhere. Please tell me HOW are we a pubic nuisance, do we dive up your driveway, do we block your way into the stores, or due we block your sunshine when we pass you on the street. We are a small fraction of the trouble of all the other cars and trucks 24 hrs on the streets and parking areas. When you go to Walmart does it bother you to see us on the other end of the parking lot, DID YOU WANT TO PARK WHERE WE ARE IN THAT SPOT, maybe your angry because that is the spot you wanted at the time far from the doors. Thank God I don’t have you as a neighbor.
rossman24
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I completely disagree. Why do you think parking your RV outside your house is not OK? Even more, if walmart offer overnight parking to RVers - it benefits them and us- why shouldn't we do this?
Charles K
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I think RV parking is becoming a public nuisance. I think walmart and the other places that allow overnight rv parking should rethink their policies. There are plenty of rv parks and rv storage facilities and that's where RVs should be put at night.
Mairo
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HOAs are an infringement of peoples liberties. Ours doesn't allow us to park our rv there for no reason. There is plenty of room at the side of our house but not allowed.
CJ
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A few years back the rumor started that our City was going to make us put our RV's in storage and not be able to park at our house. Which would be very inconvenient being as we use it almost every weekend. We got a list of City Council & planning and zoning board members names and phone numbers and went around and gave them to RV owners, boat owners, and anybody who had something of this nature sitting around their house. It was never taken any farther cause so many people called in. I did find out that in our survey that the city has the right to put in an alley behind our house, which would be nice so we could park the RV in the backyard. But to put in this alley, the city would have to buy several houses and I just don't see that happening. I let it be known that we would be happy to park in the backyard but someone realized the expense to the city. All is quiet about this issue but if it ever raises it's ugly head again, then it will be worth the hours it took to deliver the phone numbers and explaining to people. I certainly found out you don't mess with RVer's. It just so happened we had alot of storage places being built so we figured someone with the city or associated with the city had their hand in the pot and that's what started it all.
Don B.
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The answer seem to be simple, but it not. Move to a place where you can have a RV and a home or get polically invold to get reasonalble laws & regs. in your town. The other answer do like some of us have done, sell the house and go "full time". However even that is gettting harder to do! the one thing you can do - Support $$ the groups that are fighting for RVers right, ie Escapees, GoodSams, FMCA AND OTHERS.
Konrad
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I think RV's should be allowed to be parked at a persons residence. Cities should not be allowed to refuse to allow parking simply for aesthetic resons.
Mo
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You call this a Democracy! Its a Dictatorship.
Erich
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I can only park my $200,000 recreational vehicle in front of my house for 2 hours and not overnight. It costs me $170 a month to park in Altoona PA. I agree that the reason is that the city think RVs are an eyesore and I think they associate RVs with low cost housing.
Ted Deits
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I realize this may be somewhat counter to the popular opinion that I am seeing here on this comment section, but I wanted to at least bring to light what the cities are doing to help with this situation.
While our city Fathers are passing ordinances against parking RV's on the street, they at the same time are doing nothing to allow for RV storage facilities withing the city limits.
I am the operator of an RV storage Condo project in Beaumont California. Before I started this project, I approached 15 different cities within Orange County California. None of the cities would allow a new RV storage facility to be built. Why??
The reason stated is that RV storage is
1. An eyesore
2. Does not add any revenue to the city
3. Does not add any revenue to the city
4. Does not add any revenue to the city.
(Yes, I listed the revenue portion three times)
Sad to say, the current crisis in the making is the fault of the cities by not having the forethought to allow for storage locations within the very same city that is passing laws to stop RV parking. The reason? No sales tax revenue, no labor pool, no real property tax windfalls.
It is a difficult situation, that in all fairness and disclosure, plays into my hand really well. However, I don't like seeing what is going on, and it is just not fair to the average RV / Boat owner.
Best of luck to all.
Tominator
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I do not think restricting rv, boat, trailers 5th wheel, class B, C parking on the street or closer to the curb than 14 feet is bad. There are just too many abusers of common sense and that is why communites are upset. When we are pointing our finger at others for this problem, remember four fingers are pointing back at us. At one time all Wal=Mart stores allowed RV parking. So what did some idiots do to wreck it for the rest of us? They put out their slides, put their chairs out and squatted for awhile. How abusive is that. When driving through a neighborhood and trying to navigate it safely with huge boats, rv's etc blocking the view we are asking for children and adults, for that matter, to get hit because we can not see. Of course, the best thing would be to slow down, but then it would take extra time to get home as there are boats everywhere in Minnesota driveways. Want all of the toys? Move out of the city or think of others for a change rather than your selfish mentality.
Wayne J.
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This problem will ultimately lead to inflatable RV's. Such vehicles are not on the market yet so some entrepreneural reader can make it "your" idea and reap the millions of dollars that will flow from sales.
RVBob
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I should explain that we can park on our property as long as we are 14' from the curb. Sorry for any missunderstanding. We may park on the street for up to 48 hours if it is less than 20 feet long, or about the size of a car. We may never park a detached trailer on the street.
Cot
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I live in Glendora Ca. This city does not want you to park your RV in a garage or on the property. when I got my new MH in 1998 I wanted to build a garage for it. The city had a height limit of 15 feet and did not allow flat roofs. Therefor you could not put a 12 foot 6 inch RV in a garage. You could park it behind a 6 foot fence and put a blue tarp over it and look like a Red Neck but don't ask to put it in a garage.
Carl Bahrs
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It is a shame that a licensed, insured vehical is not allowed to use the streets.
RVBob
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Good Sam members have fought this successfully many times. Our city has a law that states we may not park an RV within 14' from the curb. That is to allow an un-obstructed view when exiting our property. Any eyesore that upsets several neighbours will be investigated, not only RV's. That is a good rule.
Robert Kenny
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Take time to remember the several little life and living pleasures that are being slowly eroded by ordinances, regulations and other garbage the politicians and lawyers can find ways to convert into revenue or power to restrict our activities.
These items are slowly adding up to the loss of our constutionally guaranteed freedoms perid.
ValHaus 1976
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I'm a 39 y.o. female who has been living in my '76 RV for almost ten years. I have had to learn the city ordinance for every city that I either live/work in, or pass through visiting friends. It's a game, and once one learns the rules, it gets easier. The fines are just a means for the city to cash in on RV'rs. In most cities, I could buy a million dollar property, and own it outright, but still not be able to sleep in my RV on my own property! Arghh! I keep my rig clean, leak-free, and try to park in inconspicuous places, ie: not in front of someone's house so as to "block their view." (the reality is, folks, that most of the people doing the complaining are ENVIOUS of those of us who "get it." Most people don't go full-time until after they sell their land-locked homes and retire. I figured it out early, and because I'm young, and my RV is old, I get hassled a lot. I just make sure that I understand and obey the local laws. It's a drag, though, I must admit! One last thing: HOA's are the DEVIL! ;-)
Patrick
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For that price you might build a garage to park it in, that is if you have room. I'm sure the city likes the taxes you have to pay on it.
Gary
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My city is considering a new RV parking ordinance and enforcement. Any ideas on how to fight it?
L/R.C
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If RV dealers and RV owners would get together they could get together they could solve this problem very fast and everyone would benefit.
Ross TX
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This would be a great business to be in.
Ashley
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We live near Las Vegas and are not allowed to park our RV at our house and our storage cost is $48 a month. This is the cheapest we can find but we're worried about security and are looking for somewhere safer and not too expensive but this is difficult around Vegas. We also have a boat but we can store this at the side of the house.
Sonia
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We store our RV over an hour away. It is very inconvenient but that is our only option. We have been considering a class B so that we can park in our garage. I am beginning to think that Big Rigs are best only for fulltimers. The bigger they are the harder they are to store.
Ken A
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This is crazy, I can't believe they would fine $1000 a day. Parking everywhere is becoming more difficult. Our homeowners association CC&Rs doesn't allow RV parking but I don't know about the city. All the homeowners have the same CC&R rule however and storage charges can run up to about $200 per month. Big problem unless you can store at a campground or somewhere not so expensive.
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